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them; but in new things, abuseth them. The errors of young men are the ruin
of business; but the errors of aged men amount but to this, that more might
have been done, or sooner. Young men, in the conduct and management of
actions, embrace more than they can hold; stir more than they can quiet; fly
to the end, without consideration of the means and degrees; pursue some few
principles which they have chanced upon absurdly; care not how they innovate,
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nor turn. Men of age object too much, consult too long, adventure too little,
repent too soon, and seldom drive business home to the full period, but
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Miami, NY USA - Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 08:16:01 (PDT)
"The truth will make you free" and we
all need to tell the truth about "Don't Ask,
Don't Tell," a despicable policy which requires
non-heterosexual service personnel to barricade their
humanity within a fortress of falsehood, and to practice
deception daily throughout their careers. What could
be more demeaning and dishonorable than being forced
to live a lie in order to serve one’s country? Bravo
to MEI for bringing out the truth....
Donn B. Murphy, Ph.D., 174th Military Police Battalion,
Arlington, Virginia USA - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at
Jeff, you've begun a noble enterprize here. I was
a military cop and we knew who was gay and who wasn't
in our flight. When one of our own was discharged
for being gay, all of us felt a deep grieving at loosing
him. There was no animosity towards gay service members
at all when I was on active duty; the ultra conservative
arguement that gay service members would create difficulties
with the majority of other service members is a total
fabrication. It's not like military men haven't been
engaged in sex play with oneanother since before the
creation of the Roman Legions; where man-to-man sex
created a strength in intimacy that made the entire
unit more cohesive as a fighting force. With our continued
efforts and greater focus towards unity we should
see the day that openly gay Americans can serve in
the military alongside their heterosexual peers, the
way that Gays do in European militaries. If it works
for them, why the hell can't it work for us? We The
People Means All of us.
Colton Robert Kennedy Dunn
Los Angeles, CA USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at
I wholeheartedly agree that gays should serve
in our armed forces. I am a straight woman who served
11 yrs on active duty alongside gay soldiers who were
comfortable enough and trusting enough to come out
to me. They were soldiers just like me and it didn't
bother any of my fellow soldiers that these men were
gay. We only cared that they perfomed their jobs to
the best of their abilities, not with who they were
America I ask you, why must we have only straight
soldiers defend and possibly die for this country?
Gays have EVERY right to serve alongside heterosexuals.
They are just as capable and it does not take away
from unit cohesion. This policy fosters a witch hunt
atmosphere and offers an "easy" way out for posers
to be discharged if they don't like the assignment.
The constant strain of having to hide one's sexual
identity cause undue stress and anxiety adnI feel
that takes away form unit cohesion and a soldier's
Let's grow up..........
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USA - Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 12:05:46 (PST)
MUGU MUGU GUY KEEP OFFI served in the USMC from
1984-1996, and was discharged as a result of the Don't
Ask, Don't Tell policy. I know first hand that it
does more harm than good, as it leaves the decision
to conduct an investigation up to the "discretion
of the commanding officer".
That pretty much is the loop-hole that gives them
free reign to do what they want.
That was the case in the investigation that ended
the careers of nine servicemen
IHIOMA, IMO USA - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 08:58:33
Charter Member of the Alexander Hamilton
Post. Vintage activist
San Francisco, CA USA - Thursday, February 05, 2004
at 08:27:33 (PST)
As a retired army officer and a longtime supporter of SLDN and the right to serve, I salute your efforts. The military education initiative seems to be the next major step as we work to fill the gap between CSSMM's work and long range efforts of SLDN. There is incredible power in the voices of our GBLT vets, voices that have yet to be raised to it's full volume. I can't begin to imagine the impact we could have if we could rally the collective voices of vets who have served honorably in all branches of military service. It is exciting to contemplate the power that we have. Thanks for your efforts to harness it.
Paul M Smith LTC Ret. USA
Washington, DC USA - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 18:21:23 (PST)
I served in the USMC from 1984-1996, and was discharged as a result of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. I know first hand that it does more harm than good, as it leaves the decision to conduct an investigation up to the "discretion of the commanding officer".
That pretty much is the loop-hole that gives them free reign to do what they want.
That was the case in the investigation that ended the careers of nine servicemen in Hawaii, myself included. We were from different branches, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, and ranged from E-3 to O-3. I was an E-6 with 12 years of decorated service, and a Gulf War Vet, but none of that mattered. The suggestion that I might be gay was enough to end my career. So much time and money was wasted to hunt us down, and so much more was lost by discharging us. It just doesn't make sense. Semper Fi to all who have served.
Bryan K. Clark
Bryan K. Clark
Dallas, TX USA - Friday, January 30, 2004 at 21:06:05 (PST)
I will always be proud of the 9 years I served on active duty. Working as a linguist, I had the opportunity to be involved in some pretty extraordinary events. Although I didn't broadcast my homosexuality, I never went to far hide it. I left the servie in 1995 with the reduction in force initiative. I've been happily married to my partner for 12 years now and I'm happy to say it's to another military verteran. We met while on active duty. We're living proof that the ban on gays and lesbians is a farse.
David K. Robinson
Antioch, CA USA - Friday, January 30, 2004 at 12:28:52 (PST)
As a former cadet at USAFA, I understand the plight
of coming out and living in fear everyday. I was dismissed
in 1996 and continue to support the gay and lesbian
heros who serve in our Armed Forces. I only hope that
one day, we can serve in peace and openess and be
proud of the difference we make!
Antonio Calzada Jr.
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 15:44:18
I and my partner served in the Corps for a combined total of 33 years, and are both Nam Vets. We are both conservatives, but we both believe that the ban is harmful to the nation's security, in this day and age when serving one's country is sneered at.
USA - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 11:21:58 (PST)
After retiring from Desert Storm, and making the move to Atlanta, I found the local gay veterans group already based here. I eventually became one of the leaders of the group and continued that until my burn out. I actively participate in the color guard that marches in front of the parade on Pride weekend. My friend Floyd introduced me to Jeff Cleghorn and want to help out with MEI and AVER.
Eric W. Van Pelt
Dacula, GA USA - Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 12:43:34 (PST)
Left the Navy after serving from 1990-2002, while active duty I came under undue prejudice and investigation. I fully support all organization that are working to lift "The Ban".
san diego, ca USA - Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 16:45:40 (PST)
Retired with 32 years active service and promoted to Brigadier General as the Commander of the U. S. Army Finance and Accounting Center, Honorary Board Member of SLDN and publicly came out in the NY Times of Dec 10 2003 advocating DADT ban be lifted and the most senior officer of the Army to date to do so, I would strongly urge EVERYONE who comes to this web site to pass its existence on to everyone they know and encourage them to read it. Change will only occur when it is accepted by the public at large.
Austin, Tx USA - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 12:51:09 (PST)
While I am not a former service member, I am an interested party and I am very excited to see this organization reaching out to the veteran's community regarding DADT. As V.P. of the oldest continously active GLBT organization in the country -- Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, D.C. I welcome the newest GLBT group to the fight!
Washington, D.C. USA - Wednesday, January 07, 2004 at 12:33:26 (PST)
Retired in 1997 after 25 years with the U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Public Health Service. Promoted to RADM in 1993 as the Coast Guard's Director of Health and Safety (equivalent to the Surgeon General); Co-Founder of the Puget Sound chapter of the American Veterans for Equal Rights (AVER); Honorary Board member of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN).
As one of the most senior military members to publically acknowledge my homosexuality, I look forward to continuing a public advocacy for repealing the DADT law.
RADM (Ret) Alan M. Steinman, USPHS/USCG
DuPont, WA USA - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 15:54:56 (PST)
USNA Class of 1985. Honorably discharged in 1990, rather than staying in the closet.
Thanks for your work. Your efforts, in coordination with those of SLDN, CSSMM, AVER, Alexander Hamilton Post 448, USNA Out, SAGALA, TAVA, and so many other allies (Marriage Equality Project, PFLAG, NLGTF, HRC, GLAAD) will make our society (including our military) beter, stronger and more just. Thanks.
Oakland, CA USA - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 09:36:39 (PST)
USNA Class of 1985. Honorably discharged in 1990, rather than staying in the closet.
Thanks for your work. Your efforts, in coordination with those of SLDN, CSSMM, AVER, Alexander Hamilton Post 448, USNA Out, SAGALA, TAVA, and so many other allies (Marriage Equality Project, PFLAG, NLGTF, HRC, GLAAD) will
Oakland, CA USA - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 09:32:45 (PST)
I want to say I am Proud to know other GAY Men that served there country with honor. Even if we had to stay in the closet to do it.
ARTHUR J. LYLE III
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 05:50:12 (PST)
I served in the US Army from October, 1968, to October, 1971. I was assigned to the XXIV Corps in April 1968, in I Corps, Republic of Vietnam, and served as a court reporter there until April, 1969. For the remainder of my service, I was a court reporter at Fort Riley, KS. I was honorably discharged with the rank of SP5. The court reporter MOS was 71E20.
John M. Burch
Atlanta, GA USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 11:32:12 (PST)
YN2 in USCG. Active duty 71-75; reserves until 85. The closet is a horrible place; especially in the berthing area. Glad to be out. (In spite of my sexual activity, the ship didn't sink and we accomplished our mission.) I will do what I can to get rid of this ban.
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 14:04:33 (PST)
I'm a Persian Gulf War vet
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 06:56:25 (PST)
Long-time coming for this inevitable evolution, I'm proud to be a part of. Count me in!
Gore, Virginia USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 17:51:23 (PST)
I'm glad to see an organization focused on getting veterans involved in this important national security issue.
USN officer, 1984-1992
Bremerton, WA USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 17:27:48 (PST)
(former USN officer, 1984-1992)
I glad to see veterans getting involved in this important national security issue.
Bremerton, WA USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 17:26:34 (PST)
I support everyone's right to serve. Keep up the good work!
Aberdeen, WA USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 11:49:56 (PST)
I am a Vietnam Veteran and a transgendered person. I did not know who I was when I served, but it might have been catastrophic if I had, since in no weay do trans-persons even qualify for "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
More than half the trans-persons I know are veterans, so being trans and military is certainly not unusual.
I am not typical. I am married, I lead a 50-50 (man/transwoman) life, and I am not in the closet. I am an activist, and I educate by example.
Auburn, WA USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 10:31:15 (PST)
Keep up the good fight. The Citadel GLBT community thanks you for your hard work.
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 05:44:03 (PST)
From the MEI Web Master, a test, a welcome and
an invitation to post to our guestbook. Also a reminder
that the CSSMM web site (URL below) is a great informational
resource for those working on the issue of gays and
lesbians in the military.
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 04:15:11 (PST)
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